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Re: Clintwood vs Sussex Central
Gate City has usually played a tough schedule in the past. The record against LPD schools sounds like it could be correct. However I'm pretty confident the majority of those wins can be grouped into one of two groups (1) Gate City beat teams from the LPD while GC was AA and the LPD schools A or (2) When GC came back in the LPD int he early 2000 and the LPD had several weak football team <no disrespect to any of those teams>
Spead vs Power----an age old discussion. At this point in season the team that executes the best and keeps its composure is gonna win.
The majority of the trip is gonna be on Friday
IMO if the guys from Clintwood treat the game as the event and not the trip then I think they will give theirself a chance to play next week
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My post had nothing to do with Gate City's success against any team current, past, real, or imagined. It had to do with an individual poster who did a vanishing act here after things failed to go the way he had adamantly insisted they would. I was suggesting that history might repeat itself.
But a semi-nice try at deflection any way.
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gchs_devils
Typical Wise Co cant spell rules. And Clintwood beat our ass? 88-8 is a beat that ass 28-27 is pretty darn good game. And please refrain from posting any pictures, you might give my computer viruses, thanks big boy floyd
GC's record against Wise/Pound is awesome and really makes that number look great :/
If CW loses by 35+ plus, I have my bet. But if CW wins, you have to disappear.
oh wait, you are gonna do that anyway
It must suck to have to eat so much crow, talking about how terrible the LPD was when they still have a team playing when the all the mighty CMD teams are at home.
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In the years I lived out there and here recently that area was always weak when it came to football...sure they had some decent years like a few teams around here do but I just do not see that team beating Clintwood. If the regions were still around, wouldn't they still be in Region A? I do not remember any team from Region A, in single A, Division 1 winning a state championship here recently. They have always been beaten by the Region B rep. I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong. Colonial Beach, Arcadia, Charles City and Middlesex all are weak and I mean very weak teams. I just do not think Central has played anyone decent and will hit them. I have been wrong once or twice but I do not see them beating Clintwood.
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gchs_devils
Power means nothing if you cant catch them first.
I guess I'll have to point out the obvious.
GW's backfield featured 3 of the 4 members of the 4X100 state champions and a kid who I understand is the fastest kid in the state in that division. It would seem a pretty good bet that they have already beaten the fastest team in the state in their division.
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Slobber Knocker
In the years I lived out there and here recently that area was always weak when it came to football...sure they had some decent years like a few teams around here do but I just do not see that team beating Clintwood. If the regions were still around, wouldn't they still be in Region A? I do not remember any team from Region A, in single A, Division 1 winning a state championship here recently. They have always been beaten by the Region B rep. I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong. Colonial Beach, Arcadia, Charles City and Middlesex all are weak and I mean very weak teams. I just do not think Central has played anyone decent and will hit them. I have been wrong once or twice but I do not see them beating Clintwood.
Franklin is from A
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Surry County also is in A. Been about a decade for them though.
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Speed is good to have but Clintwood has proven against George Wythe (The preseason Gods of D1 A) that speed cant run through a Brick wall. All this negitivity kills me. Why cant people from the same end of the state stick together in playoffs? Im a former Viking and now a Bear but i pull for any team from SWVA when it comes time. As bad as i cant stand Burton, I pull for em if they are in the race. Ive seen teams from up east a few times and they cant compare to teams from down here. Sure Franklin spanked JIB but other than that the majority goes to SWVA teams. GET EM WAVES is all i can say
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Originally Posted by
gchs_devils
haha Clintwood needs to try playing our schedule. GC's record against the current LPD teams is 94-64-6 so ya speaks for itself. and an 8 hour drive, back up QB, and vs a team who is fast. All adding up to SC's favor. We all know what fast teams do to Clintwood. *cough cough East Mont* Yeah blah blah Clintwood is powerful, so what. Power means nothing if you cant catch them first.
Thanks for Gotch for pointing out the obvious above so I didn't have to. Now time to debunk another of Mr. Dolt's interesting stats. *cough cough East Mont. * was a team of big, tall, skinny, slow as hell white kids who ran the PASSING SPREAD. Clintwood was a much faster team. If you'd said that what happens when Clintwood runs up against a team that could pass, you'd have had a point. Clintwood was the ones running away from East Mont, not the other way around. They decided to start playing late in the second quarter down 14-0 and lost by 5. What happens 9 times out of 10 when Clintwood plays a "fast team" is a win. The state 4x100 relay, multiple Burton teams, more often than not, Clintwood wins those games. That's what happened when they played Buffalo Gap and Franklin. Franklin probably didn't have a play over 20 yards in that game but they had some hulking OL blocking and more lead blockers than they could take care of coming out of the backfield. Buffalo Gap was just a big strong plodding team with a bull rb. They lost both of those game by a TD.
As for your prediction, that's your opinion and I'm not going to bash you for it. I wanted to correct you on what you were either embarrassing wrong about or just trying to lie about.
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Originally Posted by
Gotch
I guess I'll have to point out the obvious.
GW's backfield featured 3 of the 4 members of the 4X100 state champions and a kid who I understand is the fastest kid in the state in that division. It would seem a pretty good bet that they have already beaten the fastest team in the state in their division.
Thought I had put that in my first post to start this thread but I guess he or she did not read it. I will never understand either how come people from the other towns in the area do not want other teams from the same area to do well. Guess his biggest thrill is telling people, "I told you so!" Sad.
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Slobber Knocker
I will never understand either how come people from the other towns in the area do not want other teams from the same area to do well. Guess his biggest thrill is telling people, "I told you so!" Sad.
After seeing a certain someone cheer on Stuarts Draft because they knocked out the consolidated school kids from his hometown are attending this year, I'm afraid nothing surprises me anymore.
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Originally Posted by
Ironlung
Thanks for Gotch for pointing out the obvious above so I didn't have to. Now time to debunk another of Mr. Dolt's interesting stats. *cough cough East Mont. * was a team of big, tall, skinny, slow as hell white kids who ran the PASSING SPREAD. Clintwood was a much faster team. If you'd said that what happens when Clintwood runs up against a team that could pass, you'd have had a point. Clintwood was the ones running away from East Mont, not the other way around. They decided to start playing late in the second quarter down 14-0 and lost by 5. What happens 9 times out of 10 when Clintwood plays a "fast team" is a win. The state 4x100 relay, multiple Burton teams, more often than not, Clintwood wins those games. That's what happened when they played Buffalo Gap and Franklin. Franklin probably didn't have a play over 20 yards in that game but they had some hulking OL blocking and more lead blockers than they could take care of coming out of the backfield. Buffalo Gap was just a big strong plodding team with a bull rb. They lost both of those game by a TD.
As for your prediction, that's your opinion and I'm not going to bash you for it. I wanted to correct you on what you were either embarrassing wrong about or just trying to lie about.
Just like I have been saying, Speed cant run through a brick wall. The points you made here about Franklin and Buffalo Gap are dead on true. Those teams werent speed finesse teams, they were grind out pounding teams just like Clintwood. The track records for SWVA vs Speed teams is probably 70% to 80% wins for the grind it out SWVA teams. The jealousy of others on here cracks me up. Lke Ive been screaming, GET EM WAVES
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Play the game on the field Clintwood. I didnt say I did not want Clintwood to do good. I just think they have to fight to much adversity to win this one. If Clintwood does somehow win I will be going to Salem to support just like I did in 07 and 08. I hope Clintwood wins but at the same time im a realist. Sussex still wins. Not changing my opinion. ;)
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Jealous? Haha. Of what? back to back state losses in 07 and 08? Close doesnt count. not winning isnt a good thing in GC.
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Not winning isnt acceptable anywhere when winning programs are the norm. JMO and Im a realist as well, Clintwood will win this game. Sussex Central is blown up too big. 88-8 is a big win but who did they do that against? Was it a traditional program that is used to winning or was it a fly by night deal that got into the playoffs due to the new system. Twin Springs got blew out in the playoffs this season as well bu nobody named the team that blew them out as such a formittable opponent. Last week's score dont mean anything about the next week. Richlands proved that, Union took them to the wire but Union has proven to not be so great this season. Ya cant go off last weeks scores.
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Originally Posted by
gchs_devils
Play the game on the field Clintwood. I didnt say I did not want Clintwood to do good. I just think they have to fight to much adversity to win this one. If Clintwood does somehow win I will be going to Salem to support just like I did in 07 and 08. I hope Clintwood wins but at the same time im a realist. Sussex still wins. Not changing my opinion. ;)
I have not problem with your pick. You've got about as good a chance as anyone of being right. My only contention was the info you used for your argument was incorrect.
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By Marsel T. Mason
SUSSEX- On Saturday afternoon two very successful programs meet in the Division 1 State Semi-finals for an opportunity to go to Salem. A classic match up between two teams who will have totally different ways of trying to advance to Salem next weekend. Clintwood (11-2) takes on Sussex Central (12-1) in Sussex for a kick-off time of 130pm.
Sussex Central is coming off an 88-8 win over Covington whose size wasn't enough to overcome the Tigers speed and strength,
Clintwood was able to pull off a 23-13 win over favorite George Wythe and wore them down throughout the game with their power and size.
The Greenwave is confident in being able to do the same thing Saturday afternoon in Sussex. Controlling the clock and grinding away until opportunities present themselves. Clintwood didn't have an overly successful day offensively versus The Maroons but their defense shined forcing 6 turnovers on the day. Despite that Clintwood advanced by capitalizing on Wythe's mistakes.
Gavan Meade is the grinder in the backfield who runs behind a mammoth offensive line and matching fullbacks. Meade (who had over 140 yards rushing last week) is a strong runner with good vision who doesn't shy away from contact. As long as the downs keep resetting Meade will carry the ball as much as needed as long as it leads to Greenwave victory.
Coach Rick Mullin's squad will be entering this big game with a quarterback making his first start in Dalton Dahley. His older brother Dylan was injured on an interception return where he broke his collarbone and Dalton came in and was successful. The plan is to hand it off to the big guys and let them go to work. Robbie Mullins, Austin Dotson, and Meade will be taking the load of the work in order to get things done.
Dotson leads the defense that prides themselves in being big hitters. They credit their defensive success to the result of out hitting the Maroons and the intimidation it caused them. Being physical is a trademark of many Southwestern Virginia teams and Clintwood may feel right at home because thats the type of game that will likely be played Saturday afternoon.
The Greenwave are winners of 10 consecutive straight games and will be bringing a convoy of fans to support their efforts over 7 hours away.
Sussex Central did not have much of a challenge versus Covington but will be eager to face the challenge in front of them Saturday. Preseason favorites, the Tigers became a new squad after having a setback in their only loss to Brunswick. Last weekend the Tigers rushed for 590 yards and are two wins away from accomplishing again what the school first did 20 years ago in claiming their first state title.
The Tigers are lead offensively by four year starter Tyquan Johnson at quarterback. Johnson's play is peaking at the right time here in the post season for Coach Curtis Jefferson's squad. His decision making is vital to the production of the offense and he has been solid orchestrating the veer offense thus far.
The backfield is filled with power and speed with Darian Curley and Jeronte Langford in the backfield. Curley has breakaway speed and runs hard, many times carrying defenders! Langford is usually a nightmare for the secodary to tackle who never avoids contact. If the Tigers rushing attack is in gear then the chances of stopping them become null.
Like their Lonesome Pine district opponents, the Tri-Rivers district champion prides themselves in playing sound defensive football. Saturday they take aim on an offense that is what you see is what you get. Winning at the line of scrimmage hasn't been a problem for the Tigers and it must not be Saturday if they are to advance.
The winner of this match will play the winner of Central Lunenburg and Galax.
GAME ANALYSIS:
CLINTWOOD: The Greenwave will try to churn and burn the clock in this contest. Having many 3rd and shorts will be vital for that to happen. Tackle Austin Kelley standing 6 foot 7, 340 pounds will have to lead the offensive line to success. If Coach Mullins trusts his new quarterback as much as they claim then expect the Greenwave to take a few shots deep to try to loosen the Tiger defense up. Defensively, the Greenwave will be pushed to max much more so than in Wytheville. The Wave will be coming hard with a loaded box hoping to blow up plays for loss. It will be high risk because one miss tackle could mean 6 points. They'll take their chances.
SUSSEX CENTRAL: The first priority for the Tigers will be not to do what George Wythe did and thats turning over the football. If any offense is built to exploit bigger teams its the veer. Grayson County defeated 61-6 which was their highest point total of the season versus Clintwood who haven't loss a contest since. The Tigers will have oportunities for burner John Jones to take advatage of especially if the running game is highly successful. The key to the defense having success will be on the defensive line. If the Tigers can get into the backfield consistently and force many 3rd and longs then it will be a long day for the Greenwave.
BOTTOMLINE:
Clintwood says "The fourth quarter is ours!" By that time the massive line has worn their opponent down and their speed has left them. Clintwood has the size and the will but they won't face an intimidated opponent this week. If the offensive line dominates off the ball then the Greenwave will get their chance in the 4th. However, if the line can't keep up with the speed of the Tigers to stop them from making plays for losses then it will feel like more of a long trip home back to Clintwood.
STRENGTHS:
Quarterback- Sussex Central (Johnson can take over a contest)
Running backs- Sussex Central (Depth and more speed beyond the starters)
Wide receivers- Sussex Central (Jones, Shabre Judkins, and Charles Bryant)
Offensive line- Clintwood (Massive line led by Austin Kelley)
Defensive line- Clintwood (Hole cloggers that allow linebackers to run free)
Linebackers- Even (Both very aggressive and hard hitting)
Secondary- Sussex Central (Any bad pass will likely be heading in the opposite direction)
Special Teams- Sussex Central (Return teams give them the edge)
PREDICTION: Sussex Central 20 Clintwood 6.
This post was edited on 12/2 10:06 AM by VirginiaPreps
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Originally Posted by
gchs_devils
preview
By Marsel T. Mason
SUSSEX- On Saturday afternoon two very successful programs meet in the Division 1 State Semi-finals for an opportunity to go to Salem. A classic match up between two teams who will have totally different ways of trying to advance to Salem next weekend. Clintwood (11-2) takes on Sussex Central (12-1) in Sussex for a kick-off time of 130pm.
Sussex Central is coming off an 88-8 win over Covington whose size wasn't enough to overcome the Tigers speed and strength,
Clintwood was able to pull off a 23-13 win over favorite George Wythe and wore them down throughout the game with their power and size.
The Greenwave is confident in being able to do the same thing Saturday afternoon in Sussex. Controlling the clock and grinding away until opportunities present themselves. Clintwood didn't have an overly successful day offensively versus The Maroons but their defense shined forcing 6 turnovers on the day. Despite that Clintwood advanced by capitalizing on Wythe's mistakes.
Gavan Meade is the grinder in the backfield who runs behind a mammoth offensive line and matching fullbacks. Meade (who had over 140 yards rushing last week) is a strong runner with good vision who doesn't shy away from contact. As long as the downs keep resetting Meade will carry the ball as much as needed as long as it leads to Greenwave victory.
Coach Rick Mullin's squad will be entering this big game with a quarterback making his first start in Dalton Dahley. His older brother Dylan was injured on an interception return where he broke his collarbone and Dalton came in and was successful. The plan is to hand it off to the big guys and let them go to work. Robbie Mullins, Austin Dotson, and Meade will be taking the load of the work in order to get things done.
Dotson leads the defense that prides themselves in being big hitters. They credit their defensive success to the result of out hitting the Maroons and the intimidation it caused them. Being physical is a trademark of many Southwestern Virginia teams and Clintwood may feel right at home because thats the type of game that will likely be played Saturday afternoon.
The Greenwave are winners of 10 consecutive straight games and will be bringing a convoy of fans to support their efforts over 7 hours away.
Sussex Central did not have much of a challenge versus Covington but will be eager to face the challenge in front of them Saturday. Preseason favorites, the Tigers became a new squad after having a setback in their only loss to Brunswick. Last weekend the Tigers rushed for 590 yards and are two wins away from accomplishing again what the school first did 20 years ago in claiming their first state title.
The Tigers are lead offensively by four year starter Tyquan Johnson at quarterback. Johnson's play is peaking at the right time here in the post season for Coach Curtis Jefferson's squad. His decision making is vital to the production of the offense and he has been solid orchestrating the veer offense thus far.
The backfield is filled with power and speed with Darian Curley and Jeronte Langford in the backfield. Curley has breakaway speed and runs hard, many times carrying defenders! Langford is usually a nightmare for the secodary to tackle who never avoids contact. If the Tigers rushing attack is in gear then the chances of stopping them become null.
Like their Lonesome Pine district opponents, the Tri-Rivers district champion prides themselves in playing sound defensive football. Saturday they take aim on an offense that is what you see is what you get. Winning at the line of scrimmage hasn't been a problem for the Tigers and it must not be Saturday if they are to advance.
The winner of this match will play the winner of Central Lunenburg and Galax.
GAME ANALYSIS:
CLINTWOOD: The Greenwave will try to churn and burn the clock in this contest. Having many 3rd and shorts will be vital for that to happen. Tackle Austin Kelley standing 6 foot 7, 340 pounds will have to lead the offensive line to success. If Coach Mullins trusts his new quarterback as much as they claim then expect the Greenwave to take a few shots deep to try to loosen the Tiger defense up. Defensively, the Greenwave will be pushed to max much more so than in Wytheville. The Wave will be coming hard with a loaded box hoping to blow up plays for loss. It will be high risk because one miss tackle could mean 6 points. They'll take their chances.
SUSSEX CENTRAL: The first priority for the Tigers will be not to do what George Wythe did and thats turning over the football. If any offense is built to exploit bigger teams its the veer. Grayson County defeated 61-6 which was their highest point total of the season versus Clintwood who haven't loss a contest since. The Tigers will have oportunities for burner John Jones to take advatage of especially if the running game is highly successful. The key to the defense having success will be on the defensive line. If the Tigers can get into the backfield consistently and force many 3rd and longs then it will be a long day for the Greenwave.
BOTTOMLINE:
Clintwood says "The fourth quarter is ours!" By that time the massive line has worn their opponent down and their speed has left them. Clintwood has the size and the will but they won't face an intimidated opponent this week. If the offensive line dominates off the ball then the Greenwave will get their chance in the 4th. However, if the line can't keep up with the speed of the Tigers to stop them from making plays for losses then it will feel like more of a long trip home back to Clintwood.
STRENGTHS:
Quarterback- Sussex Central (Johnson can take over a contest)
Running backs- Sussex Central (Depth and more speed beyond the starters)
Wide receivers- Sussex Central (Jones, Shabre Judkins, and Charles Bryant)
Offensive line- Clintwood (Massive line led by Austin Kelley)
Defensive line- Clintwood (Hole cloggers that allow linebackers to run free)
Linebackers- Even (Both very aggressive and hard hitting)
Secondary- Sussex Central (Any bad pass will likely be heading in the opposite direction)
Special Teams- Sussex Central (Return teams give them the edge)
PREDICTION: Sussex Central 20 Clintwood 6.
This post was edited on 12/2 10:06 AM by VirginiaPreps
Nice pick losers :)
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I was looking at that earlier........Cocaine is a heck of a drug apparently.
Anybody who thought they had an edge on special teams and even at linebacker has to be doing some pretty hard stuff.
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And
that's why they play 'em on the field.
Actually went just about they way I figured it would.
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So....You gonna make the trip north and support CW next week gchs_devils?
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GOOD JOB CLINTWOOD.
I was pulling for them all along. I know some kids get on here and read this mess so I had to help fire them up. Sorry guys. Lol. I think it paid off. Now bring the damn thing home!!!! Go Greenwave! My real prediction was 31-14 Clintwood, but I didnt voice it on here. I wont use the reverse psychology this week I will just say 3rd time is the charm. Power won both state games at Salem last year keep it going Clintwood. And idk for sure if im headed up or not. I might. Now quit hating on me! Lol.
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there isn't too many people get on here at all anymore. To say you had to "fire them up", is funny.
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Shut up starbucks, go make me some coffee
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truth is the truth. we have what, 10 regular posters here now. you post something here the first of the month and it still has a chance to be on the front page 15-20 days later. the forum is not what it use to be and anyone that has been here knows that.
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Originally Posted by
Gotch
I was looking at that earlier........Cocaine is a heck of a drug apparently.
Anybody who thought they had an edge on special teams and even at linebacker has to be doing some pretty hard stuff.
To be honest I think the LB edge was about even there guys were without a doubt the quickest LBs we had seen this season and early in the game CW had a tough time getting blockers on them add to that the Refs allowed there LBs to cut the legs of our lead blockers they were able to D us up better than anyone other than Hazard this season